Comments on: Aboutus.org spamming search results http://www.cominvent.com/2008/02/13/aboutusorg-spamming-search-results/ Search, and you will find! Mon, 08 Feb 2010 15:57:03 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: spy-curb-webmaster http://www.cominvent.com/2008/02/13/aboutusorg-spamming-search-results/comment-page-1/#comment-99 spy-curb-webmaster Sun, 03 May 2009 13:07:20 +0000 http://www.cominvent.com/2008/02/13/aboutusorg-spamming-search-results/#comment-99 It has been a while since I checked back here and I see that there haven't been any updates / post except for possibly my own. I'll get to (A.U.) but first Since this is an SEO related site and since I can't seem to find a better subject to post the following under, I am going to make this entry a combo with question: Why is it when I parked my domain(s) last month, I got more hits on one or two of them in two days than I had gotten in the last three months while up and running Online not parked? Maybe someone here at cominvent can shed some greater light on this one matter. Here are the facts 1 while parked it was not possible for anyone to click anything other than ads or a site from another site containing an already present link to my parked site or had to have chosen my site in the search results. The ads had only my search engine standing and those few links , to bring in traffic (no other means were used to drive traffic.) 2. If people were clicking my site while parked, in order to bring up the ads, this could only mean that earlier on and before parking , that those people were picking something else with in those results earlier on.(A huge coincidence) and giving them the traffic. Ok big boys I'm asking now and not blabbing. Also keep in mind that I had long since shaken all 302 problems off (yes this still exist and not only in G-gal but at least one other none major search engine.) Now I have an idea of who does get some of my traffic; but I am not going to express that here and it really doesn't matter, nor would it help solve the above question because they would have still been getting it anyhow. ??? I am confused ??? Note DNS was pointing to the servers charring the ads at the time instead of my own server but under a newly generated number triggered only by someone addressing my domain name. Numerically Cnamed to point to it and IP's in place of sub-domains (three A address records as none www) Now figure that out if you can. P.S. While I'm here: I'm not an AU. fan but just for the sake of those that may one day need to wipe someone or something worse than that. A.U. Wiki off or down the first search page results,(I can't imagine who that could be.) Here is a tip in such a case. First bear in mind that this is assuming everyone knows you can't get rid of them anyway (Not completely.) and only if they are not already at position 3. Updating and fine tuning the shortcuts on A.U.(org) with their high rank will help accomplish this . Example: Lets say Google demerit-ed or penalized you (naturally you really were innocent) and you aren't in the search engine at all, it is this time and this time only that about -- us -- org might be of some use and possibly better than nothing, although I think it is safe to say that unless your users are loyal, they will get more benefit than you. I used this method to help a sites loyal surfers find them while they were out of the search engine altogether. (In other words these particular users weren't going to be poking around and really did want/need a link to the good specific site)"some of these people didn't even know how to make a desktop shortcut and many believed Google somehow killed the site and that the search engine was the only way to get there. "just so you get the full picture.". A.U. is still showing up at 3rd place after the sites return to the search engine (I left them there due to that rare case of not imagining anything worse) because they pushed an offending site down at least one result. The specific desired site gets #1 position now that they are back but A.U. had nothing to do with that. It has been a while since I checked back here and I see that there haven’t been any updates / post except for possibly my own. I’ll get to (A.U.) but first
Since this is an SEO related site and since I can’t seem to find a better subject to post the following under, I am going to make this entry a combo with question: Why is it when I parked my domain(s) last month, I got more hits on one or two of them in two days than I had gotten in the last three months while up and running Online not parked?
Maybe someone here at cominvent can shed some greater light on this one matter.
Here are the facts
1 while parked it was not possible for anyone to click anything other than ads or a site from another site containing an already present link to my parked site or had to have chosen my site in the search results.
The ads had only my search engine standing and those few links , to bring in traffic (no other means were used to drive traffic.)
2. If people were clicking my site while parked, in order to bring up the ads, this could only mean that earlier on and before parking , that those people were picking something else with in those results earlier on.(A huge coincidence) and giving them the traffic. Ok big boys I’m asking now and not blabbing. Also keep in mind that I had long since shaken all 302 problems off (yes this still exist and not only in G-gal but at least one other none major search engine.)
Now I have an idea of who does get some of my traffic; but I am not going to express that here and it really doesn’t matter, nor would it help solve the above question because they would have still been getting it anyhow. ??? I am confused ??? Note DNS was pointing to the servers charring the ads at the time instead of my own server but under a newly generated number triggered only by someone addressing my domain name. Numerically Cnamed to point to it and IP’s in place of sub-domains (three A address records as none www)
Now figure that out if you can.
P.S. While I’m here: I’m not an AU. fan but just for the sake of those that may one day need to wipe someone or something worse than that. A.U. Wiki off or down the first search page results,(I can’t imagine who that could be.) Here is a tip in such a case.
First bear in mind that this is assuming everyone knows you can’t get rid of them anyway (Not completely.) and only if they are not already at position 3. Updating and fine tuning the shortcuts on A.U.(org) with their high rank will help accomplish this . Example: Lets say Google demerit-ed or penalized you (naturally you really were innocent) and you aren’t in the search engine at all, it is this time and this time only that about — us — org might be of some use and possibly better than nothing, although I think it is safe to say that unless your users are loyal, they will get more benefit than you. I used this method to help a sites loyal surfers find them while they were out of the search engine altogether. (In other words these particular users weren’t going to be poking around and really did want/need a link to the good specific site)”some of these people didn’t even know how to make a desktop shortcut and many believed Google somehow killed the site and that the search engine was the only way to get there. “just so you get the full picture.”. A.U. is still showing up at 3rd place after the sites return to the search engine (I left them there due to that rare case of not imagining anything worse) because they pushed an offending site down at least one result. The specific desired site gets #1 position now that they are back but A.U. had nothing to do with that.

]]> By: spycurb-webmaster http://www.cominvent.com/2008/02/13/aboutusorg-spamming-search-results/comment-page-1/#comment-51 spycurb-webmaster Tue, 28 Oct 2008 05:44:08 +0000 http://www.cominvent.com/2008/02/13/aboutusorg-spamming-search-results/#comment-51 Gee fellow were have you been in this discussion? Those other sites don't come grabbing at your domain name as soon as you register it, (just to name one BIG difference and as far as most others (although I do dare say you named a couple on my crap list)I can and have handled them just fine and as far as that goes I'd like to thank them for being a small pest while allowing me the opportunity to gather ways to shake them off. Or rather out or way down my search results. (search engine testing is one of the things I do and they inadvertently help)Even this very site/forum is a test, it just so happens that I like it! There is one big issue with aboutus and that is the fact that even after you put a bot in place , you are still in there for anyone to come along and shove a happy hooker link near anyone's "not my Wiki by choice page" while you or I go about our daily business and neglect to check recent trashing of a good name (so to speak) Peace friend Gee fellow were have you been in this discussion? Those other sites don’t come grabbing at your domain name as soon as you register it, (just to name one BIG difference and as far as most others (although I do dare say you named a couple on my crap list)I can and have handled them just fine and as far as that goes I’d like to thank them for being a small pest while allowing me the opportunity to gather ways to shake them off. Or rather out or way down my search results. (search engine testing is one of the things I do and they inadvertently help)Even this very site/forum is a test, it just so happens that I like it! There is one big issue with aboutus and that is the fact that even after you put a bot in place , you are still in there for anyone to come along and shove a happy hooker link near anyone’s “not my Wiki by choice page” while you or I go about our daily business and neglect to check recent trashing of a good name (so to speak)
Peace friend

]]> By: translit http://www.cominvent.com/2008/02/13/aboutusorg-spamming-search-results/comment-page-1/#comment-50 translit Mon, 27 Oct 2008 19:55:00 +0000 http://www.cominvent.com/2008/02/13/aboutusorg-spamming-search-results/#comment-50 There are thousands of similar sites on the Internet who also collect information about your site and business and keep it for ages. Just to name a few: whois.domaintools.com, alexa.com, archive.org/web/web.php, builtwith.com [links moderated] and so on and on and on... You cannot really prevent such things. There are thousands of similar sites on the Internet who also collect information about your site and business and keep it for ages. Just to name a few: whois.domaintools.com, alexa.com, archive.org/web/web.php, builtwith.com [links moderated] and so on and on and on… You cannot really prevent such things.

]]> By: spycurb-webmaster http://www.cominvent.com/2008/02/13/aboutusorg-spamming-search-results/comment-page-1/#comment-48 spycurb-webmaster Mon, 20 Oct 2008 15:14:24 +0000 http://www.cominvent.com/2008/02/13/aboutusorg-spamming-search-results/#comment-48 Amen to that dub; and because truth really is stranger than fiction, it is safe to say that your truth is shaded by this fact, in a manner not so different than the shading caused by about_us_org to our domains. Anyone that has half a brain can see that about_us is only out for themselves. Hey maybe that's what the name really means, as in it's about them! P.S. Sorry to hear about your misfortune and the parting of you and your wife. I have an idea! suppose someone give them a dose of their own medicine? with a dedicated serving with ever increasing dosages? Hey you know what they say; all's fair in Love and war. Besides what would that someone have to loose, they've already made a connection to every domain out there. Now if that someone could make them wish they hadn't, then just maybe, by their not being able to back off or do anything about it, then they too can know what it feels like to have someone take it upon themselves to step on their turf and to become berried deeper and deeper in an endless sea of domain names. Gee that feels good just thinking about it. Later folks Amen to that dub; and because truth really is stranger than fiction, it is safe to say that your truth is shaded by this fact, in a manner not so different than the shading caused by about_us_org to our domains. Anyone that has half a brain can see that about_us is only out for themselves. Hey maybe that’s what the name really means, as in it’s about them!
P.S. Sorry to hear about your misfortune and the parting of you and your wife. I have an idea! suppose someone give them a dose of their own medicine? with a dedicated serving with ever increasing dosages? Hey you know what they say; all’s fair in Love and war. Besides what would that someone have to loose, they’ve already made a connection to every domain out there. Now if that someone could make them wish they hadn’t, then just maybe, by their not being able to back off or do anything about it, then they too can know what it feels like to have someone take it upon themselves to step on their turf and to become berried deeper and deeper in an endless sea of domain names. Gee that feels good just thinking about it.
Later folks

]]> By: dub http://www.cominvent.com/2008/02/13/aboutusorg-spamming-search-results/comment-page-1/#comment-47 dub Fri, 17 Oct 2008 23:59:08 +0000 http://www.cominvent.com/2008/02/13/aboutusorg-spamming-search-results/#comment-47 aboutus.org is a scam. go to google and type in aboutus and you will see all aboutus.org site they deny us that right. by censoring us. 70 percent of americans think the first site they see is what ever site they say on the advertisement. im doing yellow page ads spending 2500 a month my revenuse went down 90 percent when i paid someone to do the research they said aboutus.org was sending my traffic to my competitors needless to say i lost my business foreclosed on my home and me and my wife divorced all because of aboutus.org. i think americnas should arm themselfve and kill the enslavers aboutus.org is a scam. go to google and type in aboutus and you will see all aboutus.org site they deny us that right. by censoring us. 70 percent of americans think the first site they see is what ever site they say on the advertisement. im doing yellow page ads spending 2500 a month my revenuse went down 90 percent when i paid someone to do the research they said aboutus.org was sending my traffic to my competitors needless to say i lost my business foreclosed on my home and me and my wife divorced all because of aboutus.org. i think americnas should arm themselfve and kill the enslavers

]]> By: spycurb-webmaster http://www.cominvent.com/2008/02/13/aboutusorg-spamming-search-results/comment-page-1/#comment-39 spycurb-webmaster Sun, 17 Aug 2008 06:04:15 +0000 http://www.cominvent.com/2008/02/13/aboutusorg-spamming-search-results/#comment-39 (I agree Jen C.) OK Poker, Who made that rule of open world ? And since when is having another site of any kind showing up above a domain owners site (in search results) a good thing? Enlighten us all on how adding them to my search key words and results is going to generate any traffic for me when I already have the upper hand on those key words without Wiki aboutus.org. For Example, if someone should type wiki into the search engine, am I going to show up? answer: NO! And if they need to type the domain in to get a response from Wiki, doesn't that mean they could have just typed in the Domain and went there without Wiki Answer: yes, because obviously they would have it already or else they couldn't type it in for Wiki. So where is the advantage to adding Wiki to my search terms? (Those closly related to the Domain name)- As far as gathering information other than that supplied from the domain itself, anyone can do a whois. And just about everything Wiki assoiates a domain with ends up adding that domain to a (URI) URL further trashing the results for the Domain added to the Wiki. Speaking of who is why would someone need to know what if any whois protection a party is using and why are those entries harder coded than other Wiki default entries.? P.S. Poker,for the record I have considered doing what you spoke of, but test proved to only strengthen the Wiki and cloud my results all the more , including Wiki showing up in the # 1 position instead of My own Domain. Peace friend(s) and thanks for your input (I agree Jen C.)

OK Poker, Who made that rule of open world ? And since when is having another site of any kind showing up above a domain owners site (in search results) a good thing? Enlighten us all on how adding them to my search key words and results is going to generate any traffic for me when I already have the upper hand on those key words without Wiki aboutus.org. For Example, if someone should type wiki into the search engine, am I going to show up? answer: NO! And if they need to type the domain in to get a response from Wiki, doesn’t that mean they could have just typed in the Domain and went there without Wiki Answer: yes, because obviously they would have it already or else they couldn’t type it in for Wiki. So where is the advantage to adding Wiki to my search terms? (Those closly related to the Domain name)- As far as gathering information other than that supplied from the domain itself, anyone can do a whois. And just about everything Wiki assoiates a domain with ends up adding that domain to a (URI) URL further trashing the results for the Domain added to the Wiki. Speaking of who is why would someone need to know what if any whois protection a party is using and why are those entries harder coded than other Wiki default entries.?
P.S. Poker,for the record I have considered doing what you spoke of, but test proved to only strengthen the Wiki and cloud my results all the more , including Wiki showing up in the # 1 position instead of My own Domain.
Peace friend(s) and thanks for your input

]]> By: Poker http://www.cominvent.com/2008/02/13/aboutusorg-spamming-search-results/comment-page-1/#comment-38 Poker Fri, 15 Aug 2008 22:58:46 +0000 http://www.cominvent.com/2008/02/13/aboutusorg-spamming-search-results/#comment-38 Well Internet is all about open world, no one controls anything else. If you have got brain then you know how to make aboutus.org pages generate more traffic than do harm for you ;) Well Internet is all about open world, no one controls anything else. If you have got brain then you know how to make aboutus.org pages generate more traffic than do harm for you ;)

]]> By: Jen C. http://www.cominvent.com/2008/02/13/aboutusorg-spamming-search-results/comment-page-1/#comment-37 Jen C. Sun, 10 Aug 2008 03:34:30 +0000 http://www.cominvent.com/2008/02/13/aboutusorg-spamming-search-results/#comment-37 The bottom line is that there's only one question that governs whether or not a website like AboutUs.org is useful, positive, ethical, etc. *** Do they give you a choice about whether or not you want to participate? *** If the answer is no, I don't care how much they could benefit persons XY or Z, their site is garbage. Since AboutUs said they won't remove my website from theirs and when asked why, they stated it wasn't a part of their policy and pointed me to the page that says... "We choose not to completely remove pages from our system because AboutUs aims to be a guide to websites, and deleting a page would make us that much more incomplete." ... I'm not a fan. If I can't tell someone else to take my website off of theirs, I'd rather see them disappear than get bigger. The bottom line is that there’s only one question that governs whether or not a website like AboutUs.org is useful, positive, ethical, etc.

*** Do they give you a choice about whether or not you want to participate? ***

If the answer is no, I don’t care how much they could benefit persons XY or Z, their site is garbage.

Since AboutUs said they won’t remove my website from theirs and when asked why, they stated it wasn’t a part of their policy and pointed me to the page that says…

“We choose not to completely remove pages from our system because AboutUs aims to be a guide to websites, and deleting a page would make us that much more incomplete.”

… I’m not a fan. If I can’t tell someone else to take my website off of theirs, I’d rather see them disappear than get bigger.

]]> By: spycurb-webmaster http://www.cominvent.com/2008/02/13/aboutusorg-spamming-search-results/comment-page-1/#comment-35 spycurb-webmaster Sat, 02 Aug 2008 00:37:40 +0000 http://www.cominvent.com/2008/02/13/aboutusorg-spamming-search-results/#comment-35 P.S. Make that a white list for the ones that agree to opt-in pnce you've ask nicely. . P.S. Make that a white list for the ones that agree to opt-in pnce you’ve ask nicely. .

]]> By: spycurb-webmaster http://www.cominvent.com/2008/02/13/aboutusorg-spamming-search-results/comment-page-1/#comment-34 spycurb-webmaster Fri, 01 Aug 2008 23:57:53 +0000 http://www.cominvent.com/2008/02/13/aboutusorg-spamming-search-results/#comment-34 Isn't it interesting how those for Wiki always avoid the fact that a domain name holder already has the say and how they dance around the opt out completely? Are you people so stubborn communistic and just plain hard headed to realize that we the domain holder have the right to say and yet you still maintain things your way. Give us the opt-out or you have never seen such a flame that I shall help fan against your arrogance , if you do not. Now I have every right to be ill because you the Wiki aboutus.org owners are doing just what you want and for yourselves and there can be no other way to see that because that is currently the way it is, with you people holding the upper hand as far as what can be edited and or deleted. (As far as that goes) Now try this one on for size: Fix your bot to obey a black list, allow a owner to opt out when he puts your bot in his disallow robots.txt file then send that puppy home to that website owners Wiki page and have that bot delete it (completely) or carry a message home to the one or program that shall. end of problem. Or do nothing and continue to cause domain owners heart rates to go up , along with their blood pressure and see how you feel when someone actually sues you due to your arrogance in this matter! (Now try and twist that out of context, like you've done most every other suggestion and or complaint.) Isn’t it interesting how those for Wiki always avoid the fact that a domain name holder already has the say and how they dance around the opt out completely? Are you people so stubborn communistic and just plain hard headed to realize that we the domain holder have the right to say and yet you still maintain things your way. Give us the opt-out or you have never seen such a flame that I shall help fan against your arrogance , if you do not. Now I have every right to be ill because you the Wiki aboutus.org owners are doing just what you want and for yourselves and there can be no other way to see that because that is currently the way it is, with you people holding the upper hand as far as what can be edited and or deleted. (As far as that goes) Now try this one on for size: Fix your bot to obey a black list, allow a owner to opt out when he puts your bot in his disallow robots.txt file then send that puppy home to that website owners Wiki page and have that bot delete it (completely) or carry a message home to the one or program that shall. end of problem.
Or do nothing and continue to cause domain owners heart rates to go up , along with their blood pressure and see how you feel when someone actually sues you due to your arrogance in this matter! (Now try and twist that out of context, like you’ve done most every other suggestion and or complaint.)

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